The Canadians
The Canadians (formerly Bad Canadians) is a Canadian long-form interview series devoted to ideas, curiosity, and thoughtful conversation. Hosted by Jared Michael, the show creates a space where writers, journalists, and cultural observers can exchange ideas across traditions while avoiding the usual culture-war trenches.
Each episode is a deep, unhurried conversation with people who think differently, challenge orthodoxies, or see the country from an unexpected angle. The goal is serious, open-ended discussion about culture, institutions, history, science, media, and the stories Canada tells about itself.
Working-class roots. A Free Speech lens. Canadian contrarians. That means taking disagreement seriously and treating people as full moral equals, not caricatures or mascots for a side. The aim is to understand how thoughtful people actually think, especially when you disagree with them.
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Andrew Weaver is a climate scientist, former leader of the BC Green Party, and one of Canada’s most prominent voices on climate policy.
Widely reported to have endorsed John Rustad and the BC Conservatives’ climate plan during the last provincial election, Weaver begins by pushing back on that framing, using it as a starting point to discuss what it means to engage across political lines in an increasingly polarized environment.
We explore his path from science into politics, his time holding the balance of power in British Columbia, and the challenges of translating technical expertise into public policy.
Weaver argues that climate change is real and serious, but that framing it as an emergency can sometimes undermine practical solutions. He outlines his support for approaches like carbon capture and decarbonized oil, and reflects on why some of his strongest opposition has come from activist groups rather than industry.
Running through the conversation is a broader concern about the breakdown of public discourse, and the growing difficulty of having honest, good-faith conversations across political and ideological divides.
Andrew Weaver is a climate scientist and professor in the School of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Victoria. He previously held the Canada Research Chair in Climate Modelling and Analysis, served as a lead author on multiple United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change scientific assessments, and has authored or co-authored more than 200 peer-reviewed papers. He was elected MLA for Oak Bay–Gordon Head in 2013, later led the BC Green Party, and served in the Legislature until 2020. He is also the author of two books: Keeping Our Cool and Generation Us, and continues to write on climate solutions and public policy through his website.
Recorded March 18, 2026
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Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Nick Osmond-Jones is a former investigator with the Office of the Ombudsman in British Columbia. Before entering government, he spent a decade working in Alberta’s oil and gas industry, eventually returning to school to pursue a career in public service aligned with his values.
What happens when someone inside a public institution begins to feel that the norms they once trusted are changing? And what are the consequences of pushing back in an environment where dissent is not easily tolerated?
Nick describes a gradual shift during his time in government. What began as a shared commitment to neutrality and political impartiality gave way, over time, to a more moralized and ideological culture.
After obtaining materials from one such workshop and sharing them with a journalist, a decision that would eventually be traced back to him, he found himself under investigation and, soon after, leaving his position altogether.
In the second half of the conversation, we widen the lens to questions of neutrality, institutional culture, and the difficulty of sustaining open dialogue in an increasingly polarized environment.
Nick has since rebuilt his life outside of government as an arborist, and continues to share his thoughts publicly.
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Tuesday Apr 07, 2026
Tuesday Apr 07, 2026
Eric Kaufmann is a political scientist and professor at the University of Buckingham, and one of the few academics who has tried to define what people mean when they talk about “woke” as an ideology, rather than just a term of criticism.
Much of the current discussion around these ideas is confused or imprecise. In this conversation, we slow things down and start at the beginning. What is “woke”? Is it a coherent worldview, or something more diffuse? How does it differ from older traditions on the left, and how much influence does it have in Canadian institutions and public life?
Kaufmann suggests that what we are seeing is less a traditional political ideology and more a moral or cultural movement, one that defines certain ideas as sacred, establishes strong taboos, and increasingly shapes the norms of public life.
What makes his perspective distinct is that he does not frame this as a top-down political project, but as something that has developed more organically, with real moral motivations behind it, even as it creates tension and conflict.
This is a conversation about definitions, assumptions, and trying to think more clearly about a set of ideas that are often talked about, but not always carefully examined.
Professor Kaufmann is the author of several books on these topics, including Taboo and The Third Awokening.
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Tuesday Mar 24, 2026
Tuesday Mar 24, 2026
David Cayley spent more than thirty years as a producer for the CBC radio program Ideas, where he created hundreds of documentaries on history, philosophy, politics, religion, and culture. He is also the author of several books, including his latest, The CBC: How Canada's Public Broadcaster Lost Its Voice (And How to Get It Back), a reflection on the corporation and the question of what a public broadcaster should be in a fractured and distrustful age.
It is not unusual today to hear criticism of the CBC. What makes Cayley’s critique different is that it does not end in cynicism or a call to tear it down. He is trying to understand whether a public broadcaster could still serve a real purpose in this country, and if so, what principles might guide it forward.
In this conversation, we spend time on his diagnosis of what has gone wrong, but more on his constructive vision. We talk about the fact that the past cannot simply be recreated, that the old world is not coming back, and that any path forward has to reckon honestly with the situation we are now in. What emerges is a discussion not just about the CBC, but about institutions, public life, thinking itself, and what renewal might require.
Those interested in more of Cayley’s work can visit his website, which collects decades of articles, books, and documentaries.
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Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
Hal Niedzviecki built the heartbeat of North America’s zine movement — then lost it all for defending free expression.
In the mid-90s, his magazine Broken Pencil championed DIY art, radical self-expression, and underground culture. For nearly 30 years, it gave a voice to Canada’s creative outsiders. But in 2017, Hal published a short editorial questioning the new rules around “cultural appropriation,” and within hours, he was blacklisted by the literary establishment. Then came October 7th, 2023. When he defended Israel’s right to exist, he was labeled a “Zionist” and told to surrender his magazine to activists. Instead, he shut it down.
In this conversation, Hal reflects on founding Broken Pencil and the early zine scene that shaped him, the personal and professional fallout from his 2017 cancellation, and what it’s like being a Jewish writer in Canada after October 7th. We talk about the collapse of tolerance in the arts, the new moral orthodoxies gripping Canadian institutions, and what it costs to stay true to free expression in an age of conformity.
About Hal Niedzviecki
Hal is the founder and former editor of Broken Pencil. He’s the author of multiple books, including The Lost Expert, and is currently writing his memoir for Cormorant Books. His Substack, Hal, I’m Special, offers deeper reflections on writing, culture, and identity, and he recently wrote a deep dive, long form essay describing his full story in the Australian publication, Quillette.
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Monday Oct 13, 2025
Monday Oct 13, 2025
STEPHEN R. BOWN is one of Canada’s leading writers of non-fiction, and the winner of the 2024 Governor General’s Award for Popular History (the Pierre Berton Award). His books The Company and Dominion stand among the most vivid retellings of Canada’s origins; stories that remind us how ambition, ingenuity, and brutality often shared the same frontier.
In this conversation, we use The Company and Dominion as a foundation to explore the wider art of writing popular history: how to bring the past to life without bending it to modern sensibilities, and how to tell stories of exploration, commerce, and empire in a way that lets readers see themselves reflected in those who came before.
Stephen speaks candidly about the genre itself, the challenge of recapturing nuance in an era that demands moral certainty, and the need to return to a middle ground that acknowledges the good, the bad, and the ugly of history. It’s a conversation about balance, complexity, and how the ambitions and contradictions of the past still echo in who we are today.
STEPHEN R. BOWN is a popular historian and author of 12 works of literary non-fiction. His books have been published throughout English-speaking territories and have been translated into nine different languages; he has also written more than 20 feature magazine articles highlighting lesser-known characters and events in Canadian history. He strives to make the past accessible, meaningful, and entertaining by applying a narrative and immersive style to his writing, which blends story-telling with factual depth.
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Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
What hidden costs does inflation place on families, savers, and communities?
On Bad Canadians, Jared Michael sits down with Seb Bunney, Bitcoin author and educator, to unpack the ideas behind his book The Hidden Cost of Money. Together they explore how today’s debt-based monetary policy quietly shapes our lives — driving up the cost of housing, reshaping family choices, and distorting the incentives that ripple through society.
Seb makes the case for a different kind of world: one where saving is rewarded, long-term thinking is encouraged, and innovation thrives. At the center is Bitcoin, a fixed-supply asset designed to resist debasement and offer an alternative to the inflationary cycle we’ve come to accept as normal. Far from just another tech fad, Seb argues Bitcoin is a tool for human thriving — a foundation for stronger families, healthier communities, and real progress.
If you’ve heard about Bitcoin but never taken a deeper look, this conversation is a great place to start — an accessible way to understand the problem it was designed to solve.
Seb Bunney is the author of two books on Bitcoin, The Hidden Cost of Money and B is for Bitcoin. He is also the co-founder of Looking Glass Education, an educational hub for all things Bitcoin.
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Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
Amy Hamm is a Canadian nurse, National Post columnist, and co-founder of CaWsbar, a women’s sex-based rights organization.
In this episode, she recounts her years-long battle with the BC College of Nurses and Midwives, which disciplined her for publicly affirming that biological sex is real. What began as personal expression escalated into a high-stakes test of whether Canadian institutions can silence dissent on a matter most citizens currently accept as common sense.
Our conversation traces how regulators, the media, and the majority of Canadian institutions frame this disagreement as hate speech and professional misconduct, and why that matters for women’s spaces, health care, and the future of open debate in Canada. Along the way, Amy’s story reveals how professional and cultural authority can be wielded to punish rather than persuade.
If you care about free expression, the boundaries of institutional power, and Canada’s ability to hold civil disagreement, this episode is essential listening.
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Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
What happens when knowledge is treated as sacred dogma?
On Bad Canadians, Jared Michael sits down with internationally renowned theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss, editor of the new anthology The War on Science, to explore why ideas must remain open to challenge. The book brings together voices from physics, biology, mathematics, philosophy, and the humanities. Across these fields, Krauss argues that progress depends on questioning everything, even when it is uncomfortable.
Midway through, the discussion drifts into possible disagreement, but in the best sense. Rather than divide, it becomes a respectful exchange that shows how ideas can be tested without hostility. Civil exchanges of this kind remain as necessary as ever in today’s culture.
About Lawrence Krauss
Lawrence Krauss is one of the most celebrated theoretical physicists and public intellectuals in the world. He earned his Ph.D. from MIT, was a Junior Fellow at the Harvard Society of Fellows, and later served on the faculties of Yale and Case Western Reserve University. He founded Arizona State University’s Origins Project and today serves as President of the Origins Project Foundation. He is also Chair of the Board of the Free Speech Union of Canada. Krauss is the author of bestsellers such as The Physics of Star Trek and A Universe from Nothing, and has received numerous awards including the Richard Dawkins Award. His latest book, The War on Science (2025), gathers 39 leading voices to defend free inquiry against dogma.
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Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Eva Kurilova is a Canadian writer and thoughtful critic of today’s gender ideology.
In this episode, she explores how the word “queer” is often misunderstood as a sexual orientation, when in fact it represents a broader ideological identity—one rooted in opposition to normativity and permanence in grievance. We dig into how this framework has helped justify the medicalization of vulnerable children, particularly through gender-affirming care, even as countries like the UK, the United States, and Sweden move toward far more cautious, evidence-based policies.
We also highlight Canada’s silence—and how our media and institutions have largely abandoned this conversation, leaving the public unaware that the global conversation has already moved on.
If you’re worried about the erosion of biological reality, the medicalization of children, and the consequences of turning identity into ideology, this conversation is essential listening.
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